“If you don’t say yes to everything at some point, then you don’t figure out what to say no to.”

Rajiv Nathan and Martin McGovern are the founders of Idea Lemon, where they help young entrepreneurs and wantrapreneurs to achieve more freedom, creativity, control over their schedule, free time, “me” time, opportunities, comfort and more travel.

I wanted to get these two on the show to continue our previous conversation around knowing whether you’ve “made it” when I was on their podcast. We talked about success and defining it for yourself. Our topic of conversation today: Is quitting essential for success? I recorded this more Idea Lemon style and it’s a much more conversational episode vs. an interview.